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Emacs: comments on the Rubber Duck Show of 2023-03-16

Here are some general thoughts and comments on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjPa_yqM9g.


  • I think calling Emacs an “operating system” is a helpful metaphor to describe how powerful its potential is. Though metaphors can lead to misunderstandings and this is one of them. Emacs is designed to process buffers and maybe display them in windows (inside of frames). Emacs is good at what it does, but trying to do things like render a video or draw graphics quickly leads you to a dead-end. As a Lisp machine, Emacs can do anything given the right code. But for that potential to be realised, many non-trivial factors need to hold true.

  • I think the best explanation of what Emacs does is to consider it the layer of integration/interactivity on top of Unix. This is exemplified by dired (or dirvish for that matter). Dired basically is a wrapped for cp, mv, rm, mkdir, chmod, and related. It adds to them facilities of marking files, limiting the view to what you need to focus on, using keyboard macros, making the buffer editable, etc.. These together contribute to a powerful text-editing and file-managing experience.

  • It does not end there though, as Emacs is extensible. For a proof-of-concept extension of Dired, check my work-in-progress mandoura package: https://git.sr.ht/~protesilaos/mandoura. You mark some files or directories and invoke a command to produce a temporary file that consolidates those entries into an mpv playlist.

  • This layer of interactivity is best understood when we start integrating different “apps” into wider workflows. An example of this is how we take an email and produce a task out of it that shows up on our agenda. There is a link back to the original email so we can read that conversation again. The same idea applies when we go from the file manager to editing the file, from there to an M-x shell, then to a vc-dir or magit interface, and so on. Doing all these on the command line or with a combination of Vim+Tmux+CLI is possible but not as integrated. Those standalone tools cannot be customised in a uniform way. Vim has its own language, Tmux has another, Mutt a third one, and so on. Whereas in Emacs you apply the same skill—knowledge of Emacs Lisp—everywhere, so the more you learn in one area the better you can be in others.

  • A case where Emacs-as-an-integration-layer-for-Unix is poignant is with editable grep buffers. You perform your regular search, make the results’ buffer editable, run a query-replace or some keyboard macro to make edits in bulk, and—bam!—you refactored thousands of lines in a few seconds. And all this is done interactively where you get live feedback of what is happening.

  • Emacs does not contradict the Unix philosophy. It does one thing and does it well: it is an interpreter of Lisp programs in the same way Bash is an interpreter of shell scripts. What we do inside of Emacs is, in abstract terms, a bunch of scripts running in concert to empower the user with various patterns of interaction.

  • It is ironic that when we talk about Unix-y workflows we consider Vim a part of them. Much like Emacs, Vim does not just “edit text”. It has workspaces (tabs), panes (splits), a :term command, and so on. These are all good, in my opinion, though they actually are an argument in favour of the Emacs-y paradigm of adding a layer of interactivity on top of core utilities.

  • Yes, an IDE that is optimised for one language will give you all the bells and whistles. An editor will most probably not be able to match that. At least not without considerable effort. The question which I do not have the experience to answer is whether a good developer can have an IDE-like output of work without the IDE. Intuitively, this seems possible but maybe I am missing something. In other words, I get the impression that an IDE is not a prerequisite to the given work.

  • I think it matters to how we feel about the tool we use. There is no one-size-fits-all, no canon on what we should be following. For instance, I like the completion framework of Emacs, orderless pattern matching, the previews of consult, etc., but am not huge on in-buffer completion and concomitant “smartness” (e.g. auto-inserting closing brackets). Those extras impose a mode of working that contradicts my way of thinking/editing. I have corfu installed but mostly use the generic dabbrev or just type out the whole thing. False positive text expansions annoy me. I don’t use anything that auto-inserts texts and actively dislike popups and such embellishments—they distract me. Just looking at an IDE, I think to myself how terrible that experience would be for me with all those icons, bars, popups… Emacs can be sufficiently powerful yet visually austere. For me this is a requirement, as I otherwise feel overwhelmed and become unproductive (or at least feel that way).

  • What Amir points out about outgrowing your editor’s out-of-the-box facilities is exactly why Emacs’ extensibility is worth the investment in time and effort. It will always grow with you to match your current needs. Sure, Emacs is hard and learning Elisp just to extend Emacs is not a marketable skill per se. But such knowledge gives you the power to be flexible and super opinionated about how YOU work. You want to do things a certain way because that is what makes sense to you. Emacs gives you the tools to achieve that.

  • I started using Emacs in the summer of 2019 with a rudimentary knowledge of programming. Emacs makes it trivial to write your own Elisp, inspect existing one, see the results right away, read all the documentation in an interconnected way… Fast forward to almost four years after I started and I have close to 20 packages I wrote/maintain plus lots of extras I use in my dotfiles. It does not matter if those packages are popular or if I am the only one using them. What they do is allow me to express myself through the tool I use. Emacs lets me be unapologetically opinionated about how I work with it. I know it will evolve to reflect what I want to do with it.

  • I think the out-of-the-box experience of Emacs can be improved considerably. Small tweaks like enabling delete-selection-mode and having a better minibuffer experience with packages like vertico and orderless. I also think the custom-file should be enabled by default instead of writing code directly into the user’s init file. Still, those changes will not fundamentally refashion Emacs. It will remain difficult to approach. The kind of person who will stick with Emacs is one who has the patience to learn how this tool works and, potentially, how to extend it to realise its full potential. Extending Emacs does not mean writing one’s own Elisp: using packages from other people is the same idea. What matters is how those are pieced together and whether we understand what the intent is.

  • This leads me to a life lesson that is not peculiar to Emacs. Everything that involves a degree of sophistication requires time and effort. We are conditioned to have pleasurable things immediately and prefer to work in short feedback loops of gratification. Such an attitude is not conducive to learning things in depth. Think of how one becomes fluent in a foreign language, plays the guitar proficiently, is a martial arts master, or has refined opinions about various topics. These are achieved with patience, which engenders persistence. The more we learn, the better we become, the more awesome we feel. Investing in Emacs is the same in that regard: it is the gift that keeps giving.

  • There is this career calculus of measuring the worthiness of an investment. That is fine and I agree with it. The missing part though is the subjectivity of mastery. When we learn something deeply, we simply feel great about it and ourselves in general. Whether that spills over to other parts of one’s life will depend on the person and the milieu they are immersed in. For me, it feels empowering to have Emacs be an extension of what I want to do on the computer. It gives me confidence to accomplish other complex/demanding tasks.

  • The other constraint we have in life is the narrow conception of marketability. There are many skills that do not count as “qualifications”, litanies to the contrary notwithstanding. We are incentivised to go with the mainstream option and just focus on getting the work done. Mastering skills that may not be readily marketable (e.g. martial arts or philosophy) makes you better at everything you do because it gives you the right disposition: patience. Since day one of using Emacs, I have felt that using it in earnest will make me a better person overall. Yes, this sounds ridiculous when you only think of an editor as an editor. Though is it not the same if we reduce a guitar to just something that produces sounds? We cannot decouple the person from their activities and, more importantly, we cannot truly understand those activities without accounting for their impact on the person.

  • Another difficulty is the quest for the killer app. This is an age-old longing humans have for convenience. We want to have the most powerful tool that requires the least amount of effort. Much like becoming a karate master over the weekend. Perhaps you have heard about the “golden fleece”, Jason and the Argonauts. There is a reason the golden fleece is the stuff of myth and why the protagonists among the Argonauts in the original story meet a tragic end. The moral of the myth is to not pursue things that seem to solve all your problems, while neglecting what is practical and actualisable. The Argonauts set out on this long, open-ended adventure for the “killer app” only to end up worse off.

  • More generally, I think it is a mistake to make decisions solely on the basis of what will work in one’s career. That is the mindset of the specialist over a given short-to-medium term. Trends change, especially in technology. What remains constant is one’s disposition. We don’t seem to talk enough about working on our character. For me, the real “10x” factor is all the intangibles of attitude we develop with patience, NOT the tools or methods we employ. A relevant philosophy video of mine: https://protesilaos.com/books/2023-02-21-productivity-honesty-accountability-structures/.

  • As such, the question “will Emacs make me a better developer” is flawed. No, Emacs is not the golden fleece. Committing to it has the potential side-effect of making you more eclectic in your choices. Though what really matters is to switch your focus away from tools into personal development. Let the tool be an extension of your will. And here is where Emacs shines, because it allows you to be highly opinionated. Emacs without the attitude of learning patiently is just an awkward operating system and an editor with questionable defaults.